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10:51:30 <smoke> hello
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10:51:55 <smoke> what lisp os projects exist next to ocelot?
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18:35:05 <water> hm
18:35:08 <water> re lar
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19:29:52 <water> re td
19:29:55 <td> hey water
19:30:13 water just got back from work after 36 hrs
19:30:22 <td> man.
19:30:29 <td> i dont see how you can take that
19:30:46 <water> it doesn't matter...
19:31:03 <water> anyway, i'm finishing up those changes to the arrow squeak code
19:31:21 <td> oh
19:31:27 <td> what changes were those
19:31:41 <water> hm i guess it was someone else i was discussing them with?
19:31:52 <water> the car and cdr graphs and the apply
19:31:59 <td> dunno. i remember talking about squeak
19:32:03 <td> oh
19:32:16 <td> yeah you said something about that
19:34:27 <water> the code isn't too difficult, i just have to include all the consistency checks and things to make it true to the concept
19:34:49 <td> i see
19:34:58 <water> arrow isn't oop per se at all... a sort of mix of oo and fp
19:35:06 <water> (like slate, actually)
19:35:12 <td> hmm
19:35:30 <td> slate is arrow, though?
19:35:36 <water> heh
19:35:58 <water> arrow will be a kind of developed slate environment
19:36:12 <td> oh
19:36:21 <water> slate itself is not quite the same as arrow
19:36:34 <td> slate just implements what is needed for arrow ?
19:36:47 water nods
19:36:52 <td> ok
19:36:58 <water> what other programming languages don't have at all
19:37:28 <water> although making sure slate has what's needed isn't easy either
19:38:01 <td> i imagine
19:38:53 <td> arrow is essentially what the tunes' goals are right?
19:39:02 <water> kind of
19:39:03 <td> the entire system
19:39:23 <water> arrow is oriented towards a different philosophy
19:39:42 <td> oh?
19:40:05 <td> tunes doesnt seem oriented towards, um 'smart' computing
19:40:19 <water> yeah the general idea of ontologies for example are beyond tunes' scope
19:40:35 <water> "smart"?
19:40:41 <td> as in AI
19:40:57 <water> uh
19:41:11 <water> neither is arrow, really
19:41:32 <td> no?
19:41:43 <water> no, arrow is a communications medium
19:41:57 <td> hmm. ok
19:42:10 <water> a totally new *kind* of medium, but nevertheless just a medium
19:43:34 <td> any system that is remotely close to it?
19:43:40 <water> hm
19:43:57 <water> tunes ;)
19:44:03 <td> heh
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23:46:22 <water> hi
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