00:24:41 Brianna joined #tunes 02:45:09 Kyle joined #tunes 02:45:36 Kyle left #Tunes 02:49:22 kyleaway joined #tunes 02:49:29 [QUIT] kyleaway quit: Leaving 03:06:39 [QUIT] Fare quit: Ping timeout for Fare[ppp54-net1-idf2-bas1.isdnet.net] 03:13:36 [QUIT] nate37 quit: brb -- linux 03:37:10 Brianna joined #tunes 05:16:42 Fare joined #tunes 05:41:03 kev joined #tunes 10:17:52 jewel_ joined #tunes 11:18:32 ult_ joined #tunes 11:39:07 FiXxXeR joined #tunes 12:06:38 eihrul joined #tunes 14:18:59 eihrul joined #tunes 14:59:21 [QUIT] trans quit: Ping timeout for trans[a2a02274.intergate.bconnected.net] 16:45:01 water joined #tunes 16:45:14 re 17:55:15 [QUIT] ree quit: Ping timeout for ree[twisted.goodnet.com] 20:11:53 jester joined #tunes 20:13:29 hi jester 20:13:36 hi water 20:13:48 what brings you to #tunes? 20:16:13 i've been trying to learn more about languages and stuff, and while i read things, ofthen things are either poorly documented (assume you know something that you don't in the explination), or aren't documented at all. I was wondering if you guys would have some ideas as to what would be good ways to learn about things like reflection, macros, and interesting stuff like that, without already having to know the vocabulary. 20:16:54 hum 20:17:23 i've tried scanning the net for "scheme users groups" in chicago, but no luck :) 20:17:57 well there is a #lisp channel on this IRC network 20:18:24 which has some quite decent people to learn from when they're around 20:19:33 hmm. are they the type that like to volenteer information in low bandwidth situations (i.e. irc)? 20:20:01 yeah, that's why they're there 20:20:11 /join #lisp 20:20:27 i'll try that. do you have any other ideas? 20:20:55 hmm, nobody makes scheme/lisp videos do they? 20:21:30 heh 20:21:39 have you tried DrScheme? 20:22:14 yeah, actually i have. i like that. i never tried seeing if there were macros in it 20:22:42 i guess my problem with drscheme, is that it's not as connected to the rest of the world as something like guile 20:22:51 but it's cool for expirmenting... 20:22:52 define-syntax 20:23:05 all schemes have define-syntax 20:23:09 what is drscheme's scheme implementation based on? 20:23:18 all r5rs schemes? 20:23:23 yep 20:28:51 (checking amazon.com) 20:29:03 eh? for what? 20:29:32 scheme videos :) 20:29:51 lol 20:29:54 don't expect to find them, but i should check none the less :) 20:30:03 sure, good luck 20:31:19 ok, lets take the marketing perspective of this. those who are interested in scheme, are usually also interested in lisp. therefore if i widen my search for scheme users groups, to lisp users groups i have better odds. (didn't find any lisp users groups in chicago either) 20:31:36 www.schemers.org? 20:31:44 unless.... maybe the ieee has something 20:31:54 schemers.org are at MIT 20:32:55 hey, my search for a video turned something up 20:33:06 video: Powerpuff Girls - Dream Scheme (1998) ~ VHS ~ Dubbed in Spanish 20:33:08 ) 20:35:17 [QUIT] MysticOne quit: I'm outta here! Catch everyone later! 20:37:00 and artificial intelligance, lispers hang aound AI 20:37:23 2 decades ago, they did 20:37:32 oh 20:37:47 ok, need a new criteria then 20:59:52 nope. no ieee. looks like going to #lisp is the best idea so far 21:00:48 and the quickest 21:23:29 ult_ joined #tunes 21:35:48 water joined #tunes 21:46:10 lar1 joined #tunes 21:54:56 abi isis 21:55:00 abi: isis? 21:56:19 abi: isis is a lisp derivative for the MIT media lab at http://isis.www.media.mit.edu/ 21:56:37 abi: no, isis is [pl] a lisp derivative for the MIT media lab at http://isis.www.media.mit.edu/ 03:17:29 fare joined #tunes