IRC log started Tue Feb 2 00:00:00 1999 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0202 ωνω SignOff abi: #TUNES (Ping timeout for abi[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω abi [nef@206.63.100.13] has joined #tunes ωνω SignOff abi: #TUNES (Ping timeout for abi[206.63.100.13]) ωνω SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Tril[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω Tril [dem@bespin.ml.org] has joined #TUNES ωνω abi [nef@bespin.ml.org] has joined #tunes ωνω SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Tril[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω Tril [dem@bespin.ml.org] has joined #TUNES ωνω Closing Link: TUNES[bespin.ml.org] by norton.openprojects.net (Ping timeout for TUNES[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success ωνω Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] ωνω BitchX: For more information about BitchX type /about ωνω Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from king.openprojects.net) ωνω Your host is king.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.04.resolv9.nmt.egcs4.tok.pten.tlim4.admin.upper4.whisper3.gipl.modeless7 (from king.openprojects.net) ωνω This server was cobbled together Sat Jan 23 1999 at 21 33:38 EST(from king.openprojects.net) ωνω king.openprojects.net u2.10.04.resolv9.nmt.egcs4.tok.pten.tlim4.admin.upper4.whisper3.gipl.modeless7 dioswkfcg biklmnopstv ωνω [local users on irc(11)] 7% ωνω [global users on irc(56)] 33% ωνω [invisible users on irc(113)] 67% ωνω [ircops on irc(14)] 8% ωνω [total users on irc(169)] ωνω [unknown connections(0)] ωνω [total servers on irc(29)] (avg. 5 users per server) ωνω [total channels created(50)] (avg. 3 users per channel) !king.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 19 (16 clients) ωνω Mode change [+f] for user TUNES ωνω Mode change [+iw] for user TUNES ωνω TUNES [tunes@bespin.ml.org] has joined #tunes ωνω Topic for #TUNES: tunes arrows in haskell OS dev FAQ (Contributors needed!) ωνω topic set by Tril [Sun Jan 31 15:28:57 1999] ωνω [Users(#TUNES:5)] [ TUNES ] [ Tril ] [ abi ] [ ^lilo ] [ Fare ] ωνω Channel #TUNES was created at Wed Dec 30 09:08:43 1998 ωνω BitchX: Join to #tunes was synced in 7.365 secs!! ωνω Closing Link: TUNES[bespin.ml.org] by king.openprojects.net (Ping timeout for TUNES[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success ωνω Use /Server to connect to a server ωνω Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] ωνω BitchX: For more information about BitchX type /about ωνω Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from koontz.openprojects.net) ωνω Your host is koontz.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.04.resolv9.nmt.egcs4.tok.pten.tlim4.admin.upper4.whisper3.gipl.modeless7 (from koontz.openprojects.net) ωνω This server was cobbled together Sun Jan 24 1999 at 15 50:17 EST(from koontz.openprojects.net) ωνω koontz.openprojects.net u2.10.04.resolv9.nmt.egcs4.tok.pten.tlim4.admin.upper4.whisper3.gipl.modeless7 dioswkfcg biklmnopstv ωνω [local users on irc(5)] 3% ωνω [global users on irc(56)] 33% ωνω [invisible users on irc(112)] 67% ωνω [ircops on irc(14)] 8% ωνω [total users on irc(168)] ωνω [unknown connections(0)] ωνω [total servers on irc(29)] (avg. 5 users per server) ωνω [total channels created(50)] (avg. 3 users per channel) !koontz.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 14 (10 clients) ωνω Mode change [+f] for user TUNES ωνω Mode change [+iw] for user TUNES ωνω TUNES [tunes@bespin.ml.org] has joined #tunes ωνω [Users(#TUNES:5)] [ TUNES ] [ Tril ] [ abi ] [ ^lilo ] [ Fare ] ωνω Channel #TUNES was created at Wed Dec 30 09:08:43 1998 ωνω BitchX: Join to #tunes was synced in 8.414 secs!! ωνω Tril [dem@bespin.ml.org] has joined #TUNES ωνω SignOff abi: #TUNES (Ping timeout for abi[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Tril[bespin.ml.org]) ωνω abi [nef@bespin.ml.org] has joined #tunes ωνω Tril [dem@bespin.ml.org] has joined #TUNES ωνω NetSplit: fontana.openprojects.net split from tolkien.openprojects.net [05:00am] ωνω BitchX: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [fontana.openprojects.net] ωνω Netjoined: fontana.openprojects.net tolkien.openprojects.net ωνω Fare [rideaufr@esmeralda.enst.fr] has joined #Tunes ωνω TMF [s720@trips.ii.uib.no] has joined #tunes hi 07:40am ωνω SignOff TMF: #TUNES (Ping timeout for TMF[trips.ii.uib.no]) ωνω TMF [s720@trips.ii.uib.no] has joined #tunes ωνω iStormy [stormy@rain.futuresouth.com] has joined #Tunes hi 08:30am ωνω SignOff iStormy: #TUNES (Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?) ωνω iStormy [stormy@rain.futuresouth.com] has joined #Tunes x locked up )c: 09:10am ωνω SignOff TMF: #TUNES (Leaving) ωνω hcf [nef@escher.sdi.agate.net] has joined #tunes ωνω bashu [bashu@nena.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de] has joined #tunes hello que tal, bashu 10:10am ωνω bashu [bashu@nena.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de] has left #tunes [] ωνω SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) ωνω KeLp [kelp@xws124.xtrn03.wwu.edu] has joined #TUNES <^lilo> hey KeLp hi niihau, iStormy hey 11:20am !^lilo:*! Hi all. Slight rearrangement in progress. (hint: if you don't want to see these messages, /umode -w) ωνω NetSplit: mccaffrey.openprojects.net split from koontz.openprojects.net [11:27am] ωνω BitchX: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [mccaffrey.openprojects.net] ωνω Netjoined: mccaffrey.openprojects.net koontz.openprojects.net ωνω ^lilo [lilo@varley.openprojects.net] has joined #TUNES ωνω abi [nef@bespin.ml.org] has joined #TUNES ωνω Tril [dem@bespin.ml.org] has joined #TUNES ωνω Fare [rideaufr@esmeralda.enst.fr] has joined #TUNES ωνω iStormy [stormy@rain.futuresouth.com] has joined #TUNES ωνω SignOff KeLp: #TUNES (brb) !lilo:*! the server rearrangement, per my previous message, is now complete---thanks for your patience! :) ωνω KeLp [tcole@feynman.physics.wwu.EDU] has joined #TUNES !lilo:*! BTW, apologies for last night's splits....I was away and our other admins needed to fix some serious geometry problems in something of a hurry !lilo:*! We'll try to let you know in the future when such things are in progress. :) π KeLp/#TUNES is away: (school) [BX-MsgLog On] any one awake? 11:50am yup 12:00pm hum π Fare/#Tunes could reach a usable setup w/ atalk but it is quite buggy π Fare/#Tunes suspects Linux 2.2.1 appletalk to be ineffective. 12:10pm !gibson.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT hogan.openprojects.net 8004 from lilo !gibson.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT hogan.openprojects.net 8004 from lilo !koontz.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT hogan.openprojects.net 8004 from lilo ωνω _QZ [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes π KeLp/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 1 hrs 13 min 31 secs hum ωνω SignOff _QZ: #TUNES (Ping timeout for _QZ[p0wer.qzx.com]) 01:10pm ωνω _QZ [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes ωνω Beholder [beholder@ppp-041.m2-1.sub.ican.net] has joined #tunes Hello bonjour, Beholder ωνω Beholder [beholder@ppp-041.m2-1.sub.ican.net] has left #tunes [] ole! ola buongiorno buna sera 01:20pm chau anh chi. ωνω tcn [tcn@cci-209150250122.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes hi lo hi how's the weather? 01:30pm oh, I get it, you must be in a basement lab somewhere :) weather? what's that? it's very cold "out there". if the truth is out there, it will certainly catch a cold. It's kinda warm here, but real grey & ugly. Prolly the same where istormy is.. I mean Tril and KeLp :) You all busy? weather sucks it's 62 here, dewpoint 46, pressure 29.94, humidity 55% well, its suny now but cold π iStormy/#Tunes runs wmweather. (c The net is wicked lagged today gotta do some work what's blackbox? 01:40pm a window manager ahh, I better check it out. I've been looking for a wm that don't suck! blackbox is cool its way light very few features brb actualy bbiab π KeLp/#TUNES is away: (working) [BX-MsgLog On] aftuer much work, i think i like the old color theme better than the new one... this one sucks π KeLp/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 1 min 37 secs 01:50pm ωνω SignOff tcn: #TUNES (tcn has no reason) tcn: scwm! π KeLp/#TUNES is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] π KeLp/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 0 min 19 secs 02:00pm yo! 02:30pm yes, slackware comes with netscape, pine, and other stuff, they don't make a distinction of non-free (it's up to the user to check the license) well, netscape is freely downloadable now before you could only get it from an authroized mirror can i increase the resolution here? or do i just lower my font size I don't think you can up the rez 02:40pm sheesh...this durn webpage popped up 4 javascript windows asking my name, wanting me to sign the guestbook, saying welcome, and download a music file I hate that I turn java and java script off Tril: you can use rxvt on those machines too rxvt -fb white -bg black -fn 10x20 what's wrong with cdeterm 02:50pm it sucks and Alt # works in rxvt but doesn't in cdeterm rxvt -bg #8C585E -fg #F7E7C6 -color0 #8C585E -color4 darkgreen -color10 lightgreen -color12 antiquewhite -color15 antiquewhite -color7 #F7E7C6 -fn 9x15 -geometry 88x48+100+21 is what i use (c; i missed no scrollbar what i really want is a differnet wm wmaker www.windowmaker.org hmm , a new shell would work too zsh apropos doesn't work chsh doesn't work a really annoying web page...http://www.oxford.net/~ace/ view it in netscape with javascript and colors tiny tiny print 03:00pm Tril: exec bash and a diff windowmanager will be here soon I will have window maker and blackbox and afterstep and other cool apps like the gimp how about some office suite like what? if they are free I can do it staroffice 5 is for personal use, i'd have to download it. does it run on this platform? i want to try applixware and wordperfect I'm not shure I will check downloading star office 5 or sparc now !Crom:*! hmm it works here !doogie:*! what is its salary? !Crom:*! $1.50 a year !doogie:*! that sounds about right 03:10pm π Fare/#Tunes is back !Crom:*! Skaro!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tril: staroffice works to me under linux-i386-glibc2 !doogie:*! graydon: darn right! but it's a bitch. kelp is going to install it in this sparc lab I wouldn't use it for anything! Of course, YMMV, and at least, for people doing simple word processing, it avoids the Infamous Redmond Tax. Fare: well I wshould probalby learn tex to do all my homework but that's a lot of work no that much work wp8 is pretty cool the trick is to have good models, and copy them! ESR works for VA Research? anyway, my mom is stuff to Mac and Win, because there is no satisfying way to do vietnamese on Linux :( :( Tril: journalists write anything! well does he? I've written a sorry account of my experience with netatalk. Where should I post it? comp.os.linux.* π iStormy/#Tunes tried staroffice once...it sucked up 64mb of ram to open a dialog box, and then locked up qt is a ram hog which version? we need a sunsite here how big is sunsite big very big over 30gigs it says 03:20pm pht.com is in salt lake (and they are a metalab mirror) <_QZ> pht is cool they make turbolinux <_QZ> i know i have been there <_QZ> they are kewl ppl tho <_QZ> the one guy lives near me <_QZ> i ordered a copy of redhat from them years ago and he brought it over to me on his way home instead of shipping it is that the first time you met him? <_QZ> ya the copy you are still running <_QZ> hehe, no <_QZ> the last copy i installed was given to me by caldera <_QZ> its a burned cd <_QZ> since caldera is also a salt lake (well provo) company we get free stuff from them at the linux group 03:30pm <_QZ> when rh6 comes out ill probably get a copy and install it over the upgraded shit i have now kelp, postscript viewer? <_QZ> hmm M$ is sleeping with altavista now Fare, have you used Self? I'm installing it now <_QZ> u can kiss altavista goodbye gv or gs not found is there some dir I should have in my path? 03:40pm umm look in /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/tools/bin Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps. suck I need to fix that then Self? Self is implemented differently. they need primitive functionallity to make it all work. By using TML, I can desing languages that are completely reflective, like TOOL. I've used a demo, long ago. It was soooo *slow*, on a Sparc 20 with 24MB RAM (the biggest machine I could find at the time) abi: forget Self Fare: I forgot self I have to compile it from source for SunOS 5 these are ultra sparc 10s w/128megs I hope it works, it should run fine if ti does 128 megs should make it fine. I'm putting off writing Connect-4 in clisp the SML compiler was long known as very memory hungry, too which matters less these days If you're writing something in clisp, have it be jpeg, to earn $500 :) 03:50pm what is .cx, already? see www.cx, Christmas Island domain. They are selling domains to anyone. They were giving them away for free for a while with the noet that they would start charging in the future s/noet/note/ Tril: will you pay for bespin.cx in the future? I won't need to, logic lord and/or txorg are donating it to us! :) ωνω SignOff iStormy: #TUNES (Ping timeout for iStormy[rain.futuresouth.com]) ghostscript is taking too long to download ohh, hollands spam thing is now should probably go 04:00pm yeah π Tril/#TUNES is away: (away) [BX-MsgLog Off] 04:10pm !hogan.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT calvino.openprojects.net 8004 from lilo ωνω iStormy [stormy@rain.futuresouth.com] has joined #Tunes why didn't you tell me about *.cx while they were still free dc: π iStormy/#Tunes needs www.earthbuilders.something 06:00pm ωνω SignOff KeLp: #TUNES (Ping timeout for KeLp[feynman.physics.wwu.EDU]) ωνω KeLp [tcole@feynman.physics.wwu.EDU] has joined #TUNES π Tril/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 2 hrs 4 min 53 secs not bad...$30 for 2 years uh? .cx domain name 06:10pm oh 06:20pm ωνω SignOff Tril: #TUNES (Tril has no reason) ωνω hcf [nef@escher.sdi.agate.net] has joined #tunes ωνω lar1 [lar1@bespin.ml.org] has joined #tunes Hi! hi Anyone know where I can get modular IDE drives? 07:20pm BRB ωνω SignOff lar1: #TUNES (ircII2.8.2-EPIC3pre6 - Do you have the best?) 07:30pm yo! hi hey hello, KeLp yo! !varley.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT herbert.openprojects.net 8005 from doogie 07:50pm !koontz.openprojects.net!! Remote CONNECT herbert.openprojects.net 8005 from doogie π KeLp/#TUNES is away: (going home) [BX-MsgLog On] ωνω Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success ωνω Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] ωνω BitchX: For more information about BitchX type /about ωνω Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES (from sterling.openprojects.net) ωνω Your host is sterling.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.04.resolv9.nmt.egcs4.tok.pten.tlim4.admin.upper4.whisper3.gipl.modeless7 (from sterling.openprojects.net) ωνω This server was cobbled together Wed Dec 2 1998 at 02 26:39 EST(from sterling.openprojects.net) ωνω sterling.openprojects.net u2.10.04.resolv9.nmt.egcs4.tok.pten.tlim4.admin.upper4.whisper3.gipl.modeless7 dioswkfcg biklmnopstv ωνω [local users on irc(11)] 5% ωνω [global users on irc(72)] 36% ωνω [invisible users on irc(130)] 64% ωνω [ircops on irc(17)] 8% ωνω [total users on irc(202)] ωνω [unknown connections(0)] ωνω [total servers on irc(29)] (avg. 6 users per server) ωνω [total channels created(69)] (avg. 2 users per channel) !sterling.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 31 (17 clients) ωνω Mode change [+f] for user TUNES ωνω Mode change [+iw] for user TUNES ωνω TUNES [tunes@bespin.ml.org] has joined #tunes ωνω Topic for #TUNES: tunes arrows in haskell OS dev FAQ (Contributors needed!) ωνω topic set by Tril [Sun Jan 31 15:28:11 1999] ωνω [Users(#TUNES:5)] [ TUNES ] [ KeLp ] [ Fare ] [ abi ] [ ^lilo ] ωνω Channel #TUNES was created at Wed Dec 30 09:08:43 1998 ωνω BitchX: Join to #tunes was synced in 7.260 secs!! π KeLp/#TUNES is away: (sleep) [BX-MsgLog On] [msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.0203 IRC log ended Wed Feb 3 00:00:00 1999