IRC log started Fri Jul 30 00:00:00 1999
[msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0730
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<Fare> !
<pyro> hey fare
<pyro> umm, it's thundering over here.. 
<Fare> thundering?
02:10pm
<pyro> thunder & lightning
<pyro> so maybe I should shut down.. :)
<Fare> aren't you protected?
<pyro> a lousy surge protector..
<pyro> not on the phone
<pyro> umm, that was bright.. I'm leaving
<pyro> uhh, that lightning's ping was really fast.. :)
<Fare> bye!
<pyro> as soon as I finish downloading
>>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250093.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 933372212 850748 from #tunes
<pyro> I leave near a hilltop so there are lots of nearby lightning strikes..
<pyro> heh
<pyro> see ya :)
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02:20pm
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<pyro> still here, fare?
>>> pyro [tcn@cci-209150250081.clarityconnect.net] requested PING 933375852 331397 from #tunes
>>> shamino [sr@phila-dialup389.nni.com] requested PING 933373324 from #tunes
<shamino> [pyro PING reply]: 24 secs
* Fare/#Tunes is back
<Fare> shamino? Are you in Skara Brae?
03:20pm
* Tril/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 267 hrs 29 min 0 secs
<Tril> hi fare
<Tril> hi pyro
<Tril> hi all
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<Tril> re
<Fare> Tril!
<Fare> tcn!?
<abi> somebody said tcn was the author of retro
<pyro> hey tril
<Fare> pyro!?
<abi> i guess pyro is tcn
* Fare/#Tunes is back from Normandy
* pyro/#tunes is trying some other irc clients
* Fare/#Tunes met a guy who spent over 30 years in communist jails
<tcn> this client looks like mirc.. ack!
<Tril> is he a CS researcher?
<Fare> "the cemetery next to the jail is never in lack of people to bury"
<tcn> what country was he in?
<Fare> Tril: you don't get to study a lot of CS in jail...
<Fare> actually, you're not entitled the ability to read or write anything
<Fare> no paper, no pen, no nothing
<Fare> and speaking in a foreign tongue will earn you over a month of "special treatment"
<Fare> tcn: Vietnam
<Fare> for every single isolated US crime in Vietnam, there have been thousands of organized communist massacred people in Vietnam...
<Fare> and the US have committed many crimes in Vietnam...
<shamino> Fare: you've played Ultima VII?
<Fare> shamino: a bit. Actually, I enjoyed IV and V much more.
<Fare> VI was nice, too.
<Fare> VIII was plain horrible.
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<shamino> and online?
<Fare> the problem with VII was it depended too much on running on a 486dx33-50
<shamino> btw this is just a new nick, i hope you know who i am :)
<Fare> anything slower or faster would be horrible
<tcn> /whois shamino
<shamino> i had no frame limiter
<Fare> (and it couldn't run under DOSEMU, because it used its own specific DOS extended)
<shamino> /whois pyro :)
<pyro> pj
<pyro> oh, s_r
* pyro/#tunes has a 486-33
<Fare> pyro: then VII _might_ be enjoyable on your puter
<shamino> fare: but it was more technologically advanced than VI, and had more depth than VI, and it was not focused on action as VIII was
<shamino> i guess VI was "truer" though
<pyro> VI was good
<shamino> it felt that way
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<shamino> the best part about Ultima was that you could explore the world
<Fare> I kind of liked VII. It just turned not to be very usable on the computers I had (first too slow, then too fast when under the remnants of DOS, and unusable under Linux)
<Fare> IV was the best
<pyro> Zelda was kinda cool like that
<shamino> IV had poor graphics though
<Fare> not on an Apple ][+ !
<pyro> zelda or ultima?
<Fare> (although V did even better)
<Fare> Ultima
<shamino> Fare have you played Ultima Online too?
03:30pm
<Fare> nope
* Fare/#Tunes didn't expect much from it, but there wasn't a french server for a long time, and by the time there was one, I didn't run DOS/Windows anymore
<pyro> how long has that been around?
<tcn> /me
<tcn> /who
<tcn> this client sucks (zircon)
<tcn> too X-windowsy
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* Fare/#Tunes met another french PhD student working on reflective systems today
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03:40pm
<pyro> hmm
<pyro> I feel like writing net support for Retro
<shamino> a tcp/ip stack
<shamino> a fine choice
<shamino> i just got BSD/OS in the mail
<shamino> i can't believe how similar it is to FreeBSD
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<shamino> pyro: use xirc...
<pyro> why the hell did he join IRC first?
<pyro> i'm getting ircii
<shamino> ircii-ROOF
<shamino> epic
<pyro> as long as it has colors so I see when people are talking to me :)
<shamino> pyro: write a client yourself :)
03:50pm
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<pyro> who did all the topic statements?
<Tril> various peolpe over the last few weeks... i'm amazed it's remained this long
<Fare> Tril: that other PhD student is looking for a hosting server
<Tril> i'd not be surprised if hcf keeps putting them back, however :)
<Fare> I've convinced him that free software was the way to go
<shamino> Fare: has he begun coding?
<Tril> Fare: know my url?  http://bespin.dhs.org/free-services.html
<Tril> i should put that in my .sig
<Tril> or on my web page and put that on my sig :)
<Fare> :)
04:10pm
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<pyro> hey
<shamino> hey
<abi> hey, shamino
<liar> hey
<pyro> the ia64 is a stack architecture?
<shamino> how goes work on the OS, pyro and liar?
<pyro> it goes
<liar> ya it goes
<shamino> pyro: what have you heard about the IA64?
04:30pm
<pyro> only a little bit
<shamino> BSD/OS is just a costly FreeBSD
<pyro> haha
<pyro> you bought it?
<pyro> well I guess you could return it :)
<shamino> no i got the evaluation CD
<shamino> and used a key i got from a warez chan
* Tril/#TUNES is away: (bye) [BX-MsgLog Off]
<pyro> any source?
<shamino> nope
<pyro> haha
<pyro> who "wrote' it?
<shamino> that's the main reason not to use it
<shamino> BSDI inc.
<pyro> http://burns.daimi.au.dk/old/ia64/
<pyro> there's all I've heard about it
<pyro> oh, BSDI, that's what it used to be called
<pyro> that burns.daimi.au.dk site looks like a promising os-dev place
<pyro> it's just a skeleton now though
<shamino> heh
<shamino> i need a good OS to run
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04:40pm
<pyro> I need to find an ISA lan card for my 486, so I can test that out
<pyro> everything's friggin PCI
<shamino> NE2000
<shamino> get a cheap ISA NE2000
<shamino> from Microsource
<shamino> for like $8
<pyro> heh
<pyro> there's a place around here that should have some
<shamino> or just raid your local radioshack :)
<pyro> they sell some crappy stuff, I hear, but all I need is a crappy lan card
<pyro> rat shack sells them?
<pyro> get outta here!
<shamino> haha rat shack sells crappy PCs
<shamino> just rip it out of one of their PCs
<shamino> break in at night
04:50pm
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<pyro> i can afford $10
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<pyro> i'm still here
* shamino/#tunes looks around the channel for tcn
* shamino/#tunes stares at pyro until he realizes he is tcn
05:00pm
<pyro> hahah
<pyro> C is sooooo ugly compared to asm
<pyro> (i'm looking at an os-dev faq)
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<Fare> hum
05:10pm
<liar> pyro: so where did the name come from? :)
<shamino> tcn has had a fire fixation since childhood
<liar> not that name
* pyro/#tunes nods to shamino
<pyro> damn right :)
<shamino> hmm a warm IDE cable feels nice against the foot
<pyro> ever burn a rolled-up snowfence?
<pyro> that's COOL
<liar> pyro: did u read paul's email on tunes-lll?
<pyro> mutt
<pyro> oops
<pyro> ok, just got it
<shamino> what kind of things are being discussed on the tunes-lll right now?
<liar> retro
<liar> since tunes dont exist
<pyro> ok I'll answer him now
<shamino> what's the address of the tunes-lll archive?
<shamino> tunes-lll?
<pyro> www.tunes.org/cgi-bin/wilma/tunes-lll ?
<pyro> it's linked from tunes.org/~tcn/retro.html
05:20pm
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<pyro> make that tunes.org/~tcn/retro (I'll link retro.html to retro/index.html)
05:30pm
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<liar> pyro: where is yer reply to paul?
<pyro> heh
<pyro> i'm slow
<pyro> go check out my random comments page, though
06:10pm
<pyro> ok I sent it
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06:30pm
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[msg(TUNES)] newlog 1999.0731
IRC log ended Sat Jul 31 00:00:01 1999