IRC log started Wed Aug 11 00:00:00 1999 ofcourse it does use more cache so the cache might need to be filled more often and u might get a hit when that happens but would people really be using system calls in tight loops anyway? [msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0811 no oops 12:10am i had the tss.ss0 loaded with dpl3 ds instead of my dpl0 ds now my call gates work hrmm... yippee kewl my debugger works with my new kernel and i didnt make changes to it er not debugger my bsod and its so much nicer looking than the m$ bsod what makes your bsod of death so much cooler? cuz my bsod stands for black screen of death :) ah ha! and it has a colorful brix logo black is truly the coolest color there possibly ever was indeed my color scheme is black, white and green * eihrul/#tunes has black, blue, and hints of white and grey, if you count text my color scheme is just like the brix page so long as it isn't bright pink or yellow, it's cool :) i think i will put my animated brix logo on my bsod the brix letters all come flying out from the sides throbbing brix you could make Visual BSOD and cross over each other and then land in there spots it could have a user friendly interface with a modular architecture so third parties can insert they're own programs into a dock at the bottom of the BSOD er their 12:20am well right now the bsod is to display exceptions, but in the future it will be only for kernel panics it will say "the brix kernel is fucked, and so are you. have a nice day" heh, ya ill add a taskbar i think i will just sell space on the bsod "your ad here" crap, night -:- SignOff liar: #TUNES (BRiX [http://www.qzx.com/brix] :: sleep) Mine will say "any of you fucking pricks move, and I'll execute every mother fucking last one of ya" 12:30am -:- NetSplit: sterling.openprojects.net split from clarke.openprojects.net [12:36am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [sterling.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: sterling.openprojects.net clarke.openprojects.net -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp54.lvdi.net] has joined #Tunes -:- fare [fare@quatramaran.ens.fr] has joined #Tunes -:- Mr_Wrong [seanl@adsl-63-192-213-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #Tunes -:- Plundis [plundis@chaosdev.org] has joined #tunes * Plundis/#tunes is gone. Gone since Tue Aug 3 18:38:00 1999 -:- Crimson [crimson@194.17.41.8] has joined #tunes * Crimson/#tunes is gone. Gone since Wed Aug 4 18:07:00 1999 -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp54.lvdi.net]) -:- _NaRCoTiX [kissmy@hre-dialup-51.internet.co.zw] has joined #Tunes <_NaRCoTiX> How can I bypass the X startup and go to the terminal, like preesing F8 in Windows and going to command-prompt <_NaRCoTiX> in Linux 02:00am -:- SignOff _NaRCoTiX: #TUNES (_i_) -:- NetSplit: forward.openprojects.net split from irc.linux.com [03:05am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [forward.openprojects.net] -:- Crimson [crimson@chaosdev.org] has joined #tunes * Crimson/#tunes is gone. 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Where'd my controlling terminal go?) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- HickServ is now known as ElGato -:- SignOff ElGato: #TUNES (ElGato has no reason) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us144.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- ElGato [dave@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff ElGato: #TUNES (ElGato has no reason) -:- smkl [sami@CMLVIII.rdyn.saunalahti.fi] has joined #tunes -:- hcf has changed the topic on channel #Tunes to: Reflective Computing System | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert1993043090804.gif | http://osdevnew.listbot.com/ -:- Plundis [plundis@chaosdev.org] has joined #tunes * Plundis/#tunes is gone. Gone since Tue Aug 3 18:38:00 1999 -:- ruiner [blah@ppp147.wi.centuryinter.net] has joined #tunes yo yo yo 09:50am -:- jayc [jay@p238-179.atnt3.dialup.ftw1.flash.net] has joined #tunes greetings hello. * jayc/#tunes searches around trying to figure out what tunes is all about. I know where the homepage is, just thought I might catch a discussion. maybe I should check the logs. if you can get fare's attention he'll tell you all about what its hopefully going to be well, i dont want to be rude and message him all the time or anything, thanks for comment. just leave him a pm or something or e-mail him...in which case he'll probably just point you to what you've already read yeah, I'll just scan the website. 10:10am -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us144.javanet.com]) -:- SignOff ruiner: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- NetSplit: king.openprojects.net split from irc.linux.com [10:41am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [king.openprojects.net] -:- ElGato [dave@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes * ElGato/#tunes is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] * ElGato/#tunes is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 0 min 49 secs * ElGato/#tunes is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] -:- SignOff ElGato: #TUNES (ElGato has no reason) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us1040.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- ElGato [dave@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes * ElGato/#tunes is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp129.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes hi 'lo there what's up just woke up reading slashdot/freshmeat i woke uup a long time ago i got up at 5:30 and went running for an hour i used to wake up then... but i have to totally screw up my sleeping hours since school starts in two weeks i can't be waking up on time for school, that would be evil 01:30pm hehehe what grade you in? will be going into 12th this year i see so it's senior year i have to slack off even more than all previous years put together :) i'll be going into 9th this year so i must endure the tounting of people going "FRESHMAN!" i never got that really 01:40pm oh well i'll have to see 01:50pm -:- pyro [tcn@cci-209150250085.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes pyro!!! sup' gato? nothin but the rent I get a night off from work? from my band oh heh my chance to cook up some grub & start hacking i've been wanting to takl to you about floating point shit -:- liar [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes KEWL u guys watch the news? no salt lkae just had 2 tornadoes we have never had one before f2 small ripped the fuck outta salt lake tornadoes arent suppose to be able to form here cuz the mountains i was thinking more like an f7 or f8 :D did it take any water away? the one came right out of the sky and ripped the rook off the dlta center, were the jazz play bbal liar: the gov is using utah for a testing ground for its artifial tornados;) hah we can't have em in california the gov could care less about u mormons southern california that is hcf: yep... they planted aids, right? ElGato: ya but u get the earth quakes yeah utah is suppose to be the safest place to live cuz we dont get anything, unless that wasatch fault gives away then were all just fucked eihrul: how many gov ppl have aids? * eihrul/#tunes is in the comfortable middle, Nevada. No earthquakes. No tornados. hcf: haha... you never see many eihrul: no water people in the south are always like (oh man that tornadoe we had that destroyed my house was one thing but i wouldn't want to live in california cause of the earthquakes that's just a minor point we have underground lakes :) 02:30pm and we just leech off the Colorado Riv we have an earthquake every seven years or so eihrul: its hotter than hell in nevada nope i went there once in the summer it's very comfortable after awhile my face started on fire nevada s pretty cool actually i barely notice it any more... until you start sweating :) but that takes a few hours it isn't humid well it was about 110 or 120 when i was there which makes it nice rarely goes to 120 go to louisiana dude more in the mid 105-115 it wasnt bad when i went in october hehe it's the same temerature all thje time here it is, on the radio pyro: salt lake? ya i knew we would make national news bein our first tornado er, our first TWO ah yes it's here on excite they said some guy got crushed under a steel beam that could potentially suck kewl 4 dead 104 injured then that nazi guy, he got all the way to Vegas.. i bet the mormons will think it's an omen ya cuz it jumped right over the mormon temple it fucked up everything around it but skipped it quick, go bomb it heh before they can gloat about it liar: dress up in a toga and go up to a priest and say "this is god, bring me all your booze i know you have" ElGato: damnit, yer stupid nick comp is on again or i'll bring another tornado to smite your temple bummer 02:40pm oooh the MS trial oh ya that started again yesterday didnt it the "browser market".. ahahha how hard is it to write a browser? i did a current events report on the m$ case for my social studies class hmm they dont mention our second tornado i got an A i guess if it just killed animals in the mountains and not ppl then no one cares free food! heh we get tornados sometimes in NY.. especially in the west.. it was kewl cuz it got dark outside dark as night liar: where in utah do yo live? salt lake the smaller tornado touched down in the mountains about 2 miles west of my home and the bigger one touched down 10 miles east of my home scheme er damnit what's a good interpreter for scheme in linux? http://www.angelfire.com/nt/yessir/index3.html rscheme? i guess rscheme is by Kolby, originally under Wilson's guidance 10 / 2 == 5... 5 + 2 == 7, some kinda weird religious day... it was an attack on the mormons conspiracy material im not religious, what does 7 have to do with anything? no idea... :) neither am i... then wtf was the math for? conspiracy 02:50pm liar: well if you have a better idea we're all ears :) man that would suck if u worked downtown they cant go home tonight especially those luser mormons in the temple liar: is it really hard to get ahold of booze in salt lake? it destroyed everything around the temple so they are stuck in and cant get out u can get booze here we have liquor stores bear is like 2-3% do all the mormon kids try to "lead you on the right path"? :) in provo, home of novell,caldera,etc u cant buy alcohol on sundays the temple is in salt lake but provo is were most of the mormons live mormons kids? i remember when i was in third grade and this mormon kid was in my class in salk lake u see about 1 in a 100,000 kids that are good i was trying to make conversation with him one day and i didn't know what to say so i said "i wonder when jesus is gonna come back" in provo they are all good and he was all "What are you talking about?! He already did you idiot!" i think the cops in provo can shoot to kill anyone that doesnt obey the mormon laws el: "What's it like having two mothers?" :) would have been a better question hehehe eihrul: hahahaha actually, they dont have more than one mother mmm... polygymy each mother has her own home and her kids live there yeah but when he's 18 they'll probably send him to some third world country where he'll be sold into slavery the father just bounces around from house to house its the same as having an affair but everyone knows about it and its illegal polygymy is cool ya it lets u sleep with many women and not worry about getting caught i'd rather stick with one wife though call me old fashion -:- SignOff Mr_Wrong: #TUNES (Read error to Mr_Wrong[adsl-63-192-213-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net]: EOF from client) two sets of chilrden would suck at about 20, you'd start forgetting their names ya but when yer wife gets mad at , u can still have sex with the others :) "Hi Johnny" 03:00pm "I'm Tom you dead beat!!!" my dad calls me Dave sometimes my dad does too and we're his only two sons since my name is Dave my father never forgets my name he must really hate yer guts thant didn't make sense pyro: back to retro what's all this about a floating point stack? the 80x87 has a register stack and you wanna put the forth stack on teh 80x87? yeah just use it, it's there anyone know where i can specs on the 80x97? 80x87 rather in a 80486+ manual try Intel's www site do you have the cd's? well i got the ppro manuals will that help? yeah look there it has an FPU :D 03:10pm yeah there is a whole shitload of stuff in chapter 17 -:- _sham [sham@phila-dialup014.nni.com] has joined #tunes how big will the stack be? as big as it is on the 80x87 or what? yeah 8 regs is that how many the 80x97 has? 80x97? is that what the merced has? ;) 80x87 of course k so basically i gotta make some forth words? yup.. these forth words are just an interface to the FPU.. nothing fancy could you email me some of your ideas (you're the forth expert here) i mean words or whatever you could look at the ANS forth standard, somewhere at forth.org.. but beware, it's horrible just model the float-point math words after the regular math words.. F* instead of *, F+ instead of +, etc... well we either use something that's standardized and sucks or something only retro uses but is cool FPU math can be both standardized AND good so should i look at the ans forth docs? if you can read them i looked at it once it's .5 to 1 meg compressed it was pretty bad 03:20pm k i found the floating point stuff abi: ans forth is at http://www.forth.org/dpans/dpans.html abi: forth faq is at ftp://ftp.forth.org/pub/Forth/FAQ well im in no mood to do any o that right now (thos are a lot of words!) i'll just do the exception handling andemu then the forth words <_sham> elgato you really have to learn more about forth? <_sham> buy some books :) _sham: send me money so i can buy books <_sham> what books do you want? im already buying the dragon book but i gotta raise some cash after that <_sham> dragon book? dragon book is, like, a classic <_sham> what's the dragon book? well, the dragon book is a classic! a book on compilers <_sham> the one with the knight fighting the dragon on the cover? <_sham> i saw that uh huh <_sham> flipped through it.. looks dumb 03:30pm heh mabye abi should repreat this again abi: dragon book? hmmm... dragon book is a classic! <_sham> abi: ElGato? it has been said that ElGato is annoyed when you ask that <_sham> abi: ElGato also espouses outdated, non-technical books pyro: make it so "bye" shutsdown retro wtf <_sham> pyro: is Forth being fully integrated into Retro? the dragon book is technical pyro: retro is a bootstrapped forth interpreter os _sham: u forgot the 'is' for that 'also' er not pyro sham hmm... AOP looks odd, but cool art of prog.? aspect orientated programming <_sham> so all retro programs are in forth and not object code? no, forth is just the "glue" between you and the hardware I write a lot in assembly damn, this is a cool album!!! <_sham> what's the title? Machine Head 03:40pm is forth sexp? <_sham> does anyone here know about remote sniffer detection? <_sham> how can sniffers be remotely detected if they just read packets? they have to send apacket back or something i don't know cause im not a l3t cracker l33t rather if you don't wanna be sniffed, don't use ethernet use point-to-poitn <_sham> pyro: i know, but how are sniffers remotely detected? maybe you could do it with a spectrum analyzer haha but that wouldn't help if it's running a computer that's normally on the lan i think not umm.. use bait send some packets that'll get the intruder's attention... like a password he couldn't get except by sniffing.. if he logs onto this 'bait' account you know he's there.. pyro: is the snapshot multi-tasking? no I don't have a use for that right now <_sham> www.l0pht.com/projects/Retro.html why is there a tss.asm thn? or tss.inc or whatever 03:50pm what's this l0pht thing? <_sham> pyro: i'm joking l0pht heavy industries <_sham> wouldn't you like l0pht to sponsor your OS :P I mentioned it to one of them last year <_sham> really? you have connections with the l0pht? sure, I sent them email. big deal _sham: and his connections crap * _sham/#tunes wonders why pyro would do that if you have something intelligent to say they'll reply they're just freakin regular guys <_sham> pyro: understood _sham: you ever go to linenoise.org before? <_sham> no <_sham> why? it was a kick ass place but i think it was shut down l0pht kicks major ass though <_sham> infonexus was cool too <_sham> and technotronic there was this one other palce that was coo ltoo i forgot though nmrc.org i don't know why they bother ehlping out nt people is he still around? <_sham> www.bueno-labs.com/hacking/ <_sham> :) he h well guys im off hey, when does water usually arrive in here? i gotta wash my dads truck an picl up bat shit <_sham> elgato do you have linux installed yet? <_sham> eihrul: when the faucet's on _sham: i don't bother cause i got a winmodem later i mean "water" as in the person, associated with the nick of course -:- SignOff ElGato: #TUNES (bubye) but i should have seen that coming... <_sham> that's like asking the town idiot where his money is well, do you know? <_sham> that's the whole point of the tale, everybody in the town knows ;) he might not have a schedule for IRC'ing 04:00pm that's why i'm asking everyone in town and not the town idiot :) unless you figure yourself the town idiot <_sham> hehe I got a winmodem once went back to the store and said, you can keep this piece of crap! <_sham> hmmmm maybe you should go back to windows I am in windows I just pasted that version string from someone else on this chan so i'd look cool :) <_sham> hahahah -:- NetSplit: bear.openprojects.net split from varley.openprojects.net [04:08pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [bear.openprojects.net] 04:10pm <_sham> http://www.l0pht.com/~oblivion/blkcrwl/ look at the radio network stuff <_sham> read about Magick and Bio-engineering <_sham> i'm sure fare would like it 04:20pm -:- Netjoined: bear.openprojects.net varley.openprojects.net -:- Plundis [plundis@chaosdev.org] has joined #tunes * Plundis/#tunes is gone. Gone since Tue Aug 3 18:38:00 1999 -:- SignOff pyro: #TUNES (pyro has no reason) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us1040.javanet.com]) -:- ElGato [dave@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes it sucks when pyro isn't here perhaps kfkfkfkfkfkfkffkfkfkfkfk <_sham> KFC We do chicken right. i begin to wonder with you sometimes s_r <_sham> or it could be "kafka" without the "a" 05:00pm do steal my sunshine er...don't <_sham> ElGato: are you going to ask your family members for help with the compiler? :P no my brother isn't taking his compiler class till fall the rest of my family doesn't know anything about computers really <_sham> why don't you just take a compiler course hahaha rofl yeah like im gonna go to UCSD and just sign up for the class like i even have any of the prerequisites <_sham> hmmm read some books geez as i said im getting a book <_sham> heh <_sham> i've already coded an optimizing Lengua compiler without the help of any reference :D don't use my compilers name ho <_sham> heh <_sham> it makes my heart sing uh huh it makes my heart sing more like it <_sham> you have the weirdest quotes you should look at june that was when i was in my prime *yawn* writing a scheme interpreter is rally easy 05:10pm really rather <_sham> what does /raw do? beats the hell out of me <_sham> @$@!$@#$!@ !!! you put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up :D <_sham> ah yes <_sham> /raw sends raw commands to the irc server <_sham> s <_sham> so /raw PRIVMSG _sham :hi <_sham> would be the equivalent of "/msg _sham hi" -:- SignOff smkl: #TUNES (sleeping ...) i used to do irc raw it's timeconsuming to write privmsg #channel everytime though it took me a while till i found out about : <_sham> Administrator@WinNTbox:'C:\Windows'# <_sham> that's how my prompt looks in win nt im rewriting scanner.h again <_sham> /kick ElGato stop writing portscanners hehehe -:- Netjoined: king.openprojects.net irc.linux.com -:- liar [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #Tunes mabye i should change it to lexer.h 05:20pm take away this ball and chain <_sham> haha that song you constantly sing i was lyin on the grass of sunday morning of last week indulging in my self defeat <_sham> indulging in my self-defeat :D don't steal my sunshine that song owns me man these home videos of the tornado are kewl liar is getting of on the weather with all the explosions from the transformers -:- _sham_ [sham@phila-dialup014.nni.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _sham: #TUNES (Ping timeout for _sham[phila-dialup014.nni.com]) u would think it was kewl if it happened where u live <_sham_> liar: what? we had an F2 tornado hit today the last tornado to hit salt lake was an f1 back in 1968 and it didnt do anything when i fart it's an f8 <_sham_> ummm what about corve flores? -:- oklinux [user4820@PPPb46-ResaleOklahomaCity2-5R1005.saturn.bbn.com] has joined #Tunes what is Tunes ? rumour has it Tunes is http://www.tunes.org, a free reflective computing system or for programming languages what the internet is to networks or like flypaper for hallucinogenic programmers or discombobulated or obnubilated it's a language/os project to rethink computing what is abi ? somebody said i was the little girl borg with a big brain or #tunes' personal little whore or gaklosmontic or flurivostuginuous or xyvarestoplik or an Artificial Idiot or braindead or a crack addict infoslut or stubborn www.tunes.org <_sham_> Tunes is a musical OS. if you like the project we're happy to have you or anyone else help out shutup sham it isn't a musical os it could be <_sham_> ElGato just mooches information from others, he doesn't do any actual work <_sham_> :) i thought tunes is about interpretation -:- oklinux [user4820@PPPb46-ResaleOklahomaCity2-5R1005.saturn.bbn.com] has left #Tunes [] the only apps u can make for tunes are mp3, wav, and midi players * ElGato/#tunes kicks sham and if you choose to interpret tunes musically, it could be so <_sham_> eihrul: that's going overboard but, in principal or principle :) whichever is the correct spelling of the correct word WOW, i put a little too much soy sauce in my noodles <_sham_> it's princypel in principal 05:30pm <_sham_> liar: put some vinegar in it liar: soy sauce is good the more the better put some teriyaki sauce in that evens out the soy nicely <_sham_> liar: douse it in tabasco sauce/habenero pepper extract :D -:- _sham_ is now known as HickServ i've come back from my watery grave to haunt you, ElGato damit i'm your former self... i think we should all change nicks for a week and confuse the hell outta everyone fare and tril have yet to change nicks fare did -:- HickServ is now known as shamino liar: how's corve flores? he had a capital F, now he has a lowercase f corvo flores why is there an _ in _QZ? aren't nicks case insensitive though? no eihrul: ya so no change has been effectively made but the capitalization stays how u set it nickometer fare 'fare' is 0% lame, liar but ultimately, people interface through whatever case they wish nickometer Fare 'Fare' is 0% lame, liar wtf? i thought caps were la,e nickometer Tril 'Tril' is 0% lame, ElGato nickomter CAPS nickometer _El_Ga_to_ '_El_Ga_to_' is 69% lame, shamino nickometer ElGato 'ElGato' is 0% lame, ElGato nickometer CAPS 'CAPS' is 69% lame, eihrul nickometer #$@$@_$%@_%@#_$@ '#$@$@_$%@_%@#_$@' is 99.9945% lame, shamino there ya go all caps is lame heheh cool but not proper capitalization i made it go off the scale -:- ElGato is now known as l33thax0r nickometer _ '_' is 14% lame, eihrul nickometer l33thax0r 'l33thax0r' is 99.88% lame, l33thax0r nickometer _______________________________________________ '_______________________________________________' is 99.9965% lame, eihrul nickometer )*&!@^#&*^@!#)&*^!@*&#^@!*&#^@!)&#^!@^#@!&*()#^@*!&#^@!*&#^@!*&#^@!*&#^)@*!&^#)@&*!^#&*@!^#)(@!^#@(!&*#^()@!*!_#&_@*(!&#*&@!#_*(@&!#*_(&@!#@!H#KJ@!GH#J@GK!#JHG@!K#H@!#*(&@#)*&!@#*Y@!G#*^G@!#*@G!#)*!@#C*Y@!G!@#*)CG@!*)#&GC*@!G#C*&@G!#*)CG@)*#^GC!@*#GC)*!@G#)*@G!C*#G@*CG*@!G#*C!@G#*GC@!*#G*C@^!# ')*&!@^#&*^@!#)&*^!@*&#^@!*&#^@!)&#^!@^#@!&*()#^@*!&#^@!*&#^@!*&#^@!*&#^)@*!&^#)@&*!^#&*@!^#)(@!^#@(!&*#^()@!*!_#&_@*(!&#*&@!#_*(@&!#*_(&@!#@!H#KJ@!GH#J@GK!#JHG@!K#H@!#*(&@#)*&!@#*Y@!G#*^G@!#*@G!#)*!@#C*Y@!G!@#*)CG@!*)#&GC*@!G#C*&@G!#*)CG@)*#^GC!@*#GC)*!@G#)*@G!C*#G@*CG*@!G#*C!@G#*GC@!*#G*C@^!#' is off the scale lame, liar -:- l33thax0r is now known as ElGato -:- shamino is now known as _^_3155|\ * eihrul/#tunes feels like running C through the nickometer. haha i just need to find a choice snippet... -:- _^_3155|\ is now known as ^\_\|\}{^ nickometer mov ax,bx 'mov' is 0% lame, liar nickometer movax,bx 'movax,bx' is 14% lame, liar nickometer 'mov ax, bx' ''mov' is 14% lame, eihrul nickometer abi 'abi' is 0% lame, eihrul nickometer printf("hello"); 'printf("hello");' is 98.18% lame, liar C is more lame than asm :) nickometer (printhello) '(printhello)' is 0% lame, eihrul <^\_\|\}{^> nickometer nickometer 'nickometer' is 0% lame, ^\_\|\}{^ damn it nickometer (:lisp) '(:lisp)' is 24% lame, eihrul <^\_\|\}{^> abi: kill yourself nickometer push[esp+ebx*2+1] 'push[esp+ebx*2+1]' is 86% lame, eihrul damn still not quite as lame as C nickometer push[es:esp+ebx*2+1] 'push[es:esp+ebx*2+1]' is 99.54% lame, eihrul ha! that is not valid asm u need a operand size nickometer pushdword[es:esp+ebx*2+1] 'pushdword[es:esp+ebx*2+1]' is 99.54% lame, liar hmm that shoulda made it less lame <^\_\|\}{^> liar: but pushes automatically push 32-bit values, don't they? -:- ^\_\|\}{^ is now known as shamino no 05:40pm nickometer pushl(%esp,%ebx,1) 'pushl(%esp,%ebx,1)' is 99.66% lame, eihrul goes to show you... AT&T assembly is evil i think u need to specify a size on everything at&t > intel nickometer !@#$%^&*()_+ '!@#$%^&*()_+' is 99.9916% lame, ElGato liar: are you an asm expert? maybe there is no try as Yoda would say liar: how long did it take you to accumulate all this knowledge? liar? hmmm... liar is a child prodigy lamer -:- dclinux [user3576@216-32-76-208.wdc0.flashcom.net] has joined #Tunes what is tunes and why is it here another one of ya eh? tunes? tunes is http://www.tunes.org, a free reflective computing system or for programming languages what the internet is to networks or like flypaper for hallucinogenic programmers or discombobulated or obnubilated not enough people read the channel topic it seems tunes is an os/language project to rethink computing at www.tunes.org if you like the project feel free to contribute i went to the web site and im more confused than ever. looks like you need a page called : "what is tunes" dclinux: yeah well our head honcho doesn't seem to think so unfortunately i had trouble the first time i looked at it hahahaha home owner insurance doesnt cover tornados in utah when the faq is explaining the faq you know you are in trouble :) yeah do you know lisp? lisp is ((simply) (perfect)) el: there needs to be a name for that... the Tunes Effect, analogous to the naming of the Slashdot Effect hundreds of ppl are now screwed dc: a faq describing the faq itself is reflective 05:50pm dclinux: Tunes is a lot like Linux. They're both furry and green and therefor, ironically fitting liar that goes with the territory- in utah that is... basically the idea behind tunes is to review computer science as we know it and create a language to build an advanced os on if the husband dies who collects? id love to stay tuned but my channel surf mode is on.. later -:- dclinux [user3576@216-32-76-208.wdc0.flashcom.net] has left #Tunes [] :\ he won't be back it's gotta be the bot man...*moan*...linked lists make me horny then binary trees make you double horny? well i am actually writing a tree doubly linked lists make me double horny though synctactical? yeah for a syntax tree er -c :) does anyone here play Quake2? can't say i do liar: there? 06:00pm he's masturbating over my code :) ah, ok -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us710.javanet.com] has joined #tunes how many args do you think afunction should be able to have i gotta limit it somewhere why do you have to limit? 06:10pm cuae i don't want to bog it down with dynamic memory allocation you won't ah hell if you need to allocate space to store them simply allocate a sufficient number and if at any time during compilation it's not sufficient just enlarge it who the hell is gonna use 128 args don't assume :) you don't even really need to bother to get rid of the extra allocated memory until you exit ElGato: who'll need more than 640k? fine fine i won't assume i'll start it out as like 4 or 8 args 640 kibibytes... mmm then enlarg it most functions aren't as big as 6 args but some are i'd start with 8 then probably just double the size every time you run out of space geez why does carls junior have to give the US such a bad image why? what're they doing now? ElGato: do you ever get the feeling "gee so much i have to learn"? they're talking trash on europe on the radio god i wish i had ops right now 06:20pm what did i say that was wrong? you keep bugging me about learning im doing that everyday so shutup you're annoying the problem with lisp is that it make the lists for you so it doesn't make me horny abi: arity is the number of arguments a function or operator takes where's arity derrived from? abi: scheme scheme is ((nearly) (perfect)) abi: no, scheme is a badass dialect of lisp okay, ElGato. scheme? scheme is a badass dialect of lisp abi: mathimatica abi: mathematica mathematica is more expensive abi: mathematica? well, mathematica is more expensive 06:30pm abi: snarf? elgato: i haven't a clue abi: snarfing? i haven't a clue, elgato the only jargonfile terms she has are ones ppl have put in abi: snarfing is writing a programming language in it's self so i put some in abi: forget snarfing hcf: I forgot snarfing hey bonjour, ElGato why? cuz the defn is wrong no it's right http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?snarf D: * ElGato/#tunes is imagining that hcf is a 12 year old asian girl 06:40pm does c optimise tail-recursion? ElGato: ur snarf defn pertains to 'bootstrapping' why a 12 yr old asian grrl? well your nick pertains to murder throuhg arson because the compiler told me you were "parser: hcf is a 12 year old asian girl" 06:50pm how does murder/arson connect to 12 yo asian female? halt and catch fire i researched you how so? /whois ?! * ElGato/#tunes has his ways :) and... not really actually hows it relate to a 12 yo asian female? i think i fingered you i forgot i just made that up 07:00pm are you anything other than the official TUNES knowledge distribution engineer? -:- eihrul_ [lee@usr5-ppp73.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes he's the official web jockey -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp129.lvdi.net]) i gotta go bye all -:- SignOff ElGato: #TUNES (ElGato has no reason) 07:10pm -:- eihrul_ is now known as eihrul -:- SignOff shamino: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us710.javanet.com]) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us1045.javanet.com] has joined #tunes abi: arity prolog is at http://www.arity.com 07:50pm -:- NetSplit: bear.openprojects.net split from forward.openprojects.net [09:20pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [bear.openprojects.net] -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us1045.javanet.com]) -:- Netjoined: bear.openprojects.net forward.openprojects.net -:- Plundis [plundis@chaosdev.org] has joined #tunes * Plundis/#tunes is gone. 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